466 tit for tat [2]
Bill Gates, Director Lin and all the students on the scene were in an uproar. Although many people did not agree to limit greenhouse gas emissions, they would at least support it on the surface. Only some more direct beneficiaries of real power will publicly oppose it, and there will not be many such people. But no one would have expected that Zhou Yujie would not agree with the policy.
Bill Gates asked: "How does Mr. Zhou think it should be controlled?"
"The so-called carbon emission requirements are itself a vicious restriction of developed countries on developing countries." Zhou Yujie said: "If developed countries really consider the global climate so much, why don't they disclose their developed environmental protection technologies, why don't they announce their coal-fired generator technologies with higher combustion rates, why don't they announce their automotive engine technologies with higher combustion efficiency, and why don't they announce their high-quality gasoline refining technology?
If these technologies can be shared, it can reduce greenhouse gas emissions in developing countries at least 10%, Mr. Gates, are you right?"
"This involves deep economic issues, and the patent is not in the hands of the country, and no country has the right to take away the patented technology of enterprises or individuals. This is a sacred private property." Bill Gates said with a frown slightly.
"Okay, let's not talk about this for now." Zhou Yujie nodded and said: "One more, Mr. Gates, who emits a lot of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere at present? Are they developing countries or developed countries?"
Bill Gates's face changed and he immediately understood what Zhou Yujie meant, but he could only answer in front of everyone: "The greenhouse gases were emitted by developed countries decades ago, but over the years, the gases emitted by developing countries have exceeded those of developed countries."
Zhou Yujie said: "Developed countries have polluted the earth for hundreds of years, and then with this history, their own economy and technology have developed. Now, because of their polluted environment, they have restricted developing countries. Is this fair? Shouldn't people in developing countries use electricity to wash clothes? Instead, they can only use their hands?"
Bill Gates saw that he was already a stunning match against Mai Mang today, but he was not displeased. A confrontational discussion would have greater influence, especially since both sides are well-known figures around the world. If he wins this debate, his influence will become greater.
Bill Gates said: "What Mr. Zhou said is not without reason, but the most important thing is to solve the problem, not to hold anyone responsible, but to find ways to control greenhouse gas emissions. Otherwise, after decades, both developed and developing countries will be seriously affected."
Zhou Yujie suddenly changed the subject and asked: "I heard that the US government opposes the Brazilian government's plan to develop Amazon forests?"
"Yes." Bill Gates was stunned for a moment, not knowing why Zhou Yujie suddenly said this, but he still said: "Mr. Zhou, you should also know that the Amazon forest is the world's largest forest, which produces 20% of the world's oxygen and also plays a great role in the absorption of greenhouse gases. Moreover, a very large ecological chain at that time, if it was destroyed, it would never be restored."
Zhou Yujie said: "But as far as I know, the forest area in North America was not lower than that in South America, and the species were very abundant. If the US government really cared about the climate and environment, why not find a way to restore its former ecology, but prevent the poor countries in South America from logging wood?"
"Yes, the Americans cut down their forests almost enough, so they won't let others cut them."
"That is, I turned the forest into farmland, and I won't let others have more fields to support my family."
"I have also heard of Amazon development. I thought it was not very good at that time. Now, when I think about it, there is nothing wrong with Brazilians, too."
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Under the venue, the voices of discussion also rose one after another, and the perspective of thinking was instantly turned over. The so-called environmental protection is just a political game. I destroyed the climate and developed. Then, for the sake of the future of mankind, please stop developing.
Seeing that the environment at the scene became more and more chaotic, Director Lin only dared to let the students be quieter. As for Zhou Yujie and Bill Gates, he no longer planned to take care of it. When the two bigwigs argued, he would not express any opinions. One was because they were afraid of offending others, and the other was because they were too high-level opinions. The two people in front of him said the wrong thing, and at most they were discussed online. However, if he expressed his own opinions, he might have problems with his work after being attacked.
Bill Gates was silent for a moment and said, "I agree with what Mr. Zhou said, but restoring the ecology in North America or Europe does not conflict with the Amazon development plan, nor is it a choice of two. Moreover, a powerful ecological environment will take at least several hundred years to restore it, and destroying Amazon may be done in a few years. Therefore, in terms of priority, we must prevent the destruction of Amazon forests.
As for economic issues, I have not considered it before. I will arrange for my foundation to conduct field exploration in South America in the future, so as to bring benefits to local people in other economic fields."
Zhou Yujie smiled and said, "That's the best. It's better not to destroy the forest."
Director Lin was already very embarrassed at this moment. This tit-for-tat confrontation was a bit stressful for him, but judging from his current appearance, it seemed that the tit-for-tat should be over.
Bill Gates asked: "Mr. Zhou's idea is indeed very interesting. I wonder if there is any good solution to the climate problem?"
Zhou Yujie thought for a while and said: "In fact, limiting carbon emissions in developing countries is a bit of a cart before the horse, because developing countries also need to develop economies. Many of them still have no food and need to work, and many people also spend a lot of time on things that can be solved by a little power, such as washing clothes. If there is a washing machine, it can release a lot of labor time.
Moreover, all developing countries that consume very large electricity will see that they have extremely strong foreign trade relations and huge power generation, in addition to supporting their own consumption, they support foreign trade. The biggest demand for foreign trade is developed countries.
Now the carbon emissions of developing countries exceed those of developed countries, but the fundamental reason is still from the demand of developed countries. From the demand side, global greenhouse gas emissions are all to meet the lives of people in developed countries. Therefore, if you want to solve the problem of carbon emissions, it is useless to find developing countries. You should look for developed countries to consume less. If the foreign trade volume of developing countries decreases, carbon emissions will naturally decrease."
Chapter completed!