Chapter 38 How to Govern?
After discussing Ye County's upgrade and issuance of money, Du Zhongxiao said: "After Ye County was upgraded to Yezhou, the Iron Supervision was under the jurisdiction of the Salt and Iron Department, there were nearly 100,000 households in Yezhou, most of whom lived together. It is certainly possible to divide into several counties, but it is very inconvenient. It is better to have a unified jurisdiction by one state."
Wang Yaochen said: "One state manages 100,000 households, and it is very difficult to manage without dividing counties. It is better to divide it into several counties."
Du Zhongxiao said: "Most of the people gather together. Even if the distance below is separated, there are still too many people in the city. Since ancient times, in addition to the capital, where are there such densely populated places? If you manage it well, you must make great efforts."
Wang Yaochen said: "You can compare with Kaifeng Prefecture, set up more officials, more soldiers, and patrol day and night. With the financial resources there, in addition to the Iron Supervision, it is not much worse than Kaifeng Prefecture, and it can be supported."
Du Zhongxiao said: "Da Shen, from the perspective of the following, Ye County is different. The reason why it gathers so many people is mainly because it is close to the railway supervision, convenient transportation, and the hydraulic power of Fangchengshan, which is suitable for opening factories. Unlike Kaifeng Prefecture, most of the population there are customers. In addition to the staff who run factories, the most people are working in factories. In addition to the factories, there are workers in docks, freight yards, and people who run various shops. If such places are not managed in depth, they will not be able to manage the following places."
Wang Zhu, a Hanlin scholar, said: "So what if you can't control the lower part? It is impossible for the imperial court to govern the world in everything. As long as the people are stable and there are no people who violate the law and discipline, there is no need to control the lower part in poverty."
Wang Zhu was Wang Yaochen's father, and he couldn't help but participate in the discussion between Du Zhongxiao and the fallen son. For many officials of this era, as long as the place is stable and there is nothing to do, why should we take care of everything? In the eyes of many officials, Du Zhongxiao's concerns are a cause of trouble.
Du Zhongxiao said: "Nehan, this is what I have always emphasized. Factory farms are different from farmers before, and they are different from opening shops. Compared with those, factories are more closed and the things produced are very single. If the court cannot control them below, then the factory will become an independent world, and the court has nowhere to start from other places. Moreover, workers and farmers are different, with strict management, similar to the army..."
After hearing this, Fan Zhen on the side said, "Zhongcheng said it well. I see that several factories in the capital have extremely strict management and are not trained, and they are really not good at doing anything. They are used to listening to the foreman's words and doing things, and they are really similar to the army."
Du Zhongxiao nodded: "If the court does not take care of such a group of people and is completely outside the factory manager, it will be difficult to ensure what will happen in the future. Prevent the problem of Du Zhi. If you have already left a place like Ye County, the court will have to find a way there to see how to manage the factory."
In the words of Du Zhongxiao in his previous life, workers are naturally organized and disciplined, which is very different from farmers. Regardless of whether they are controlled by the factory outsiders, if they are controlled by the factory, will chaos happen in the future, that's not good.
When it comes to possible rebellion, Wang Yaochen and Wang Zhu kept silent. This question is very sensitive, and there is such a sign. Even if the court pays the price, it must participate as much as possible, so that the civil servants cannot control this power.
Wen Yanbo said: "In the opinion of Zhongcheng, how should Ye County be managed to be promoted to prefecture? Apart from Kaifeng Prefecture, the world really has no experience in governing such places. Everything is difficult at the beginning. If you want to cure Ye County well, you should think of a solution."
Du Zhongxiao said: "The cure of the local area is naturally based on the local power. Now, the imperial court governs the local area, except for the army, nothing more than sending local officials, local public officials, and entrusting the people's servants. In the past, there was no money in the local area, and many public officials were actually servants, especially in counties. Ye County is different from other places. It has a lot of money and grain, and it only depends on whether it can be collected. I think that to cure Ye County, we cannot be the same as other places, and we must make the local area rich in system. If the local area has money, we can hire public officials, serve the people, and cooperate with the officials, so that we can cure it."
Liu Ying said: "What does the Chief Secretary want to do, please explain it clearly."
Du Zhongxiao bowed: "My husband, governing the local area is ultimately to allow the people to do what they want without violating the laws. In the past, people thought about farming, just to collect more money and grain, light taxes and low taxes. But in factories, at least two types of people had to be divided into two types. One was the factory owner, who used money to open a factory to make money. They thought about selling more goods, the cost of goods was low and the selling price was high, and they could make more money. There were also workers who worked with their wages, and they thought about putting less effort and getting more money. This was different, and the court must distinguish them clearly."
The relationship between capitalists and factories is complicated, and Du Zhongxiao cannot explain it too clearly. One is his own level, and the other is that the current officials understand it, but they cannot understand the relationship.
In this era, there were no typical capitalists as mentioned in later generations, and of course there was no typical group of workers. Their appearance was that with the beginning of industrialization, for capitalists, opening factories could make more money. For workers, working in factories was much better than farming. The Song Dynasty did not restrict population mobility. As long as money was made, some people naturally did not work as farmers and workers.
In general, this is an era of relatively openness and freedom. The court and officials followed the style of the five generations, relaxed personal restrictions bit by bit, and issued laws and regulations to develop towards employment. The people of the country have become accustomed to life with less governance, and gradually established confidence in the government, and liked to sue when there was conflict. Capital and workers have a large space to invest in factories.
Wen Yanbo said: "Ye County has no shortage of money and grain. In addition to the taxes of the court, you can naturally collect money and grain to support officials and public officials. As the Chief of the Central Committee said, in addition to sending more officials in Ye County, you should also hire more public officials and take care of everything?"
Du Zhongxiao said: "Of course, you cannot take care of everything, but the court must take charge of important matters. I think that in places like Ye County, where money and food are not short of money and food, officials should form a system. The court sends officials to take charge of local power and govern the local area according to the orders of officials. Local people follow the servants and follow the officials to serve the officials according to their household registration. Officials, officials, and officials perform their duties to form a whole."
Except for the army, officials, officials, officials, and officials were the people who governed the local government, but they had not been divided before, but were roughly separated. Most of the officials present had been officials in the local area for many years, and it was not difficult to understand what Du Zhongxiao said. Most counties, due to financial limitations, were unable to pay salaries to officials, so local wealthy households took turns to the county government office to serve as officials. Some of the public officials in the prefectures were hired, and some were drawn from the county. The actual difference between officials and officials was not obvious.
Du Zhongxiao said: "The court is not trapped by money and grain, and there is a condition to distinguish the official system. The most important feature of officials being sent by the court is that they have no industry in the local area and have actual power. The officials are local people, hired by the government, and have no term of office. The servants are civil corvee labor, and the people take turns to serve. Such responsibilities are clear, local affairs are handled by officials, and the power belongs to the officials, and the servants are the power used by officials. Since the servants themselves are people under control, they can supervise officials when they are servants. Therefore, local affairs, servants can report to officials, and officials rely on the notice of servants to supervise officials. In this way, local officials will be linked to the people."
After hearing this, everyone nodded together, thinking about whether what Du Zhongxiao said was feasible.
Wang Zhu said: "If officials do this, they should be in power. Only by being aware of officials can we know whether officials do things in accordance with the rules or whether they are seeking personal gain. If they are not aware of officials, they are so easy to manage?"
Du Zhongxiao said: "No, when officials were first appointed to the local area, the court should let them study well, just like a military academy."
The new Jinshi passed the imperial examination and the grade was three months of study. However, in these three months, it was more about the friendship between officials and not much taught. In this era, officials were still relatively casual and managed the local area, and they rely more on their own understanding and didn’t learn much.
Wen Yanbo thought about it and said, "What the Chief Chief said naturally makes sense. However, there are very few officials who can do this. Now, it is probably difficult to do it."
Du Zhongxiao said: "For the more than ten days I have been in Ye County, it's probably difficult. If I want to do it, I will send another capable official."
The personnel issues are not discussed now, Wen Yanbo nodded and stopped talking about them.
Ouyang Xiu said: "The governance area clearly divides it into officials and officials. It is not bad. Although it is good, it always feels difficult to do it. Just like Ye County, it is not easy to inspect people and households. If they take turns to serve, it will be even more difficult. As for officials, it is even more difficult. There are few people in the prefectures and counties who are familiar with officials, so how can they choose? "
Du Zhongxiao said: "Nehan, in the past, the local government was managed, and due to insufficient money and food and lack of personnel, he often did not ask whether the people who did things were suitable, as long as there were people. In order to be safe, he chose more local wealthy households. If something happened, he would make up for the losses with their property. But he didn't know that these wealthy households could not think about their own family when they were officials in the yamen? For officials, they could only turn a blind eye to many things and not be too detailed."
Everyone nodded together. How many officials are working diligently as officials? Most of the time, they just guarantee that they will not be able to come out. Everything will be fine if they collect all their money and food. Which one can benefit from the people and who will suffer from the damage? Where can they manage so much?
Ouyang Xiudao: "As Zhongcheng said, should the local government choose officials and also open a school? Choose the right person and study in the school. If you are in harmony, you will go to the yamen to do things. If you are not in harmony, you will retreat."
Chapter completed!